That afternoon, I watched Huffman make a sales pitch to a group of executives from a New York advertising agency. Like many platforms, Reddit has struggled to convert its huge audience into a stable revenue stream, and its representatives spend a lot of time trying to convince potential advertisers that Reddit is not hot garbage. Huffman sat at the head of a long table, facing a dozen men and women in suits. The “snarky, libertarian” ethos of early Reddit, he said, “mostly came from me as a twenty-one-year-old. I’ve since grown out of that, to the relief of everyone.” The executives nodded and chuckled. “We had a lot of baggage,” he continued. “We let the story get away from us. And now we’re trying to get our shit together.”
Later, Huffman told me that getting Reddit’s shit together would require continual intervention. “I don’t think I’m going to leave the office one Friday and go, ‘Mission accomplished—we fixed the Internet,’ ” he said. “Every day, you keep visiting different parts of the site, opening this random door or that random door—‘What’s it like in here? Does this feel like a shitty place to be? No, people are generally having a good time, nobody’s hatching any evil plots, nobody’s crying. O.K., great.’ And you move on to the next room.”
In January, Facebook announced that it would make news less visible in its users’ feeds. “Facebook was originally designed to connect friends and family—and it has excelled at that,” a product manager named Samidh Chakrabarti wrote on a company blog. “But as unprecedented numbers of people channel their political energy through this medium, it’s being used in unforeseen ways with societal repercussions that were never anticipated.” It wasn’t the most effusive mea culpa in history, but by Facebook’s standards it amounted to wailing and gnashing of teeth. “We want to make sure that our products are not just fun, but are good for people,” Mark Zuckerberg told the Times. Direct pronouncements from him are so rare that even this pabulum was treated as push-alert-worthy news.
In retrospect, although Facebook denies this, it seems clear that the company was preparing for a blow that was about to land. On February 16th, the special counsel Robert Mueller filed an indictment against several Russian individuals and businesses, including the Internet Research Agency, a company aligned with the Kremlin. The indictment mentioned Facebook thirty-five times, and not in ways that made the platform seem like a “force for good in democracy.” According to recent reporting by the Daily Beast, the Internet Research Agency also seeded Reddit with disinformation during the 2016 election. (A group of impostors even tried to set up an A.M.A.) Last Monday, the Washington Postreported that the Senate Intelligence Committee will question Reddit executives about this; the same day, Huffman admitted that the company had “found and removed a few hundred accounts” associated with Russian propaganda. (A Reddit representative told me that the company has been coöperating with congressional investigators “for months,” although they haven’t spoken about it publicly.) As in all such disinformation campaigns, the Russians did not act alone: their messages were upvoted and repeated by thousands of unsuspecting Americans. “I believe the biggest risk we face as Americans is our own ability to discern reality from nonsense,” Huffman wrote. “I wish there was a solution as simple as banning all propaganda, but it’s not that easy.”
Zuckerberg recently set a “personal challenge” for himself: “enforcing our policies and preventing misuse of our tools.” This seems to be a reversal for Zuckerberg, who was once a fake-news truther. Two days after the 2016 election, he said, “The idea that fake news on Facebook, of which it’s a very small amount of the content, influenced the election in any way, I think, is a pretty crazy idea. Voters make decisions based on their lived experience.” This was a pretty crazy idea, and Zuckerberg has been walking it back ever since. It’s obvious that what we see online affects how we think and feel. We know this in part because Facebook has done research on it. In 2012, without notice or permission, Facebook tweaked the feeds of nearly seven hundred thousand of its users, showing one group more posts containing “positive emotional content” and the other more “negative emotional content.” Two years later, Facebook declassified the experiment and published the results. Users were livid, and, after that, Facebook either stopped conducting secret experiments or stopped admitting to them. But the results of the experiment were clear: the people with happier feeds acted happier, and vice versa. The study’s authors called it “massive-scale emotional contagion.” Since then, social media has only grown in size and influence, and the persuasive tools available to advertisers, spies, politicians, and propagandists have only become sharper. During the 2016 election, a few Russian impostors affected many Americans’ beliefs and, presumably, votes. With another election coming up, most of the loopholes that the Russians exploited have not been closed, and the main loophole—the open, connected, massively contagious world of social media—might not be closable.
When I raised this issue with Huffman over dinner last summer, he said, “I go back and forth on whether Reddit is the tail or the dog. I think it’s a bit of both.” First, he laid out the tail hypothesis: “Reddit is a reflection of reality. People are enthusiastic about Bernie or Trump in real life, so they go on Reddit and talk about how much they like Bernie or Trump. So far, so good.” Then he laid out the dog hypothesis, which his fellow social-media executives almost never acknowledge—that reality is also a reflection of social media. “All sorts of weird things can happen online,” he said. “Imagine I post a joke where the point is to be offensive—like, to imply, ‘This is something that a racist person would say’—but you misread the context and think, ‘Yeah, that racist guy has a good point.’ That kind of dynamic, I think, explains a lot of what happened on The_Donald, at least in the early days—someone keeps pushing a joke or a meme to see how far they can take it, and the answer turns out to be Pretty fucking far.”
Leftist communities on Reddit often implore the company to ban The_Donald. So far, Huffman has demurred. “There are arguments on both sides,” he said, “but, ultimately, my view is that their anger comes from feeling like they don’t have a voice, so it won’t solve anything if I take away their voice.” He thought of something else to say, but decided against it. Then he took a swig of beer and said it anyway. “I’m confident that Reddit could sway elections,” he told me. “We wouldn’t do it, of course. And I don’t know how many times we could get away with it. But, if we really wanted to, I’m sure Reddit could have swayed at least this election, this once.” That’s a terrifying thought. It’s also almost certainly true.
On August 11th, Huffman’s alma mater, the University of Virginia, was overrun by white nationalists carrying torches. “I was on a plane when I saw the news, and I got really emotional,” Huffman said. He told his employees, “If any of these people are on Reddit, I want them gone. Nuke ’em.” This felt cathartic, but personal catharsis is an awful way to make policy. “Luckily, my team knew me well enough to go, ‘Steve, you’re pissed off right now. Let’s talk about it more rationally on Monday.’ ”
Early the next week, Reddit banned Physical_Removal. In Charlottesville, James Alex Fields, one of the white nationalists, had driven a car into a crowd of counterprotesters, injuring nineteen and killing a woman named Heather Heyer. “This is a good thing,” the top post on Physical_Removal read. “They are mockeries of life and need to fucking go.” Reddit had a rule prohibiting content that “encourages or incites violence,” and this was a violation of that rule. Huffman said, “We’d had our eye on that community for a while, and it felt good to get rid of them, I have to say. But it still didn’t feel like enough.”
“Encouraging or inciting violence” was a narrow standard, and Huffman and his team agreed to expand it. Four words became thirty-six: “Do not post content that encourages, glorifies, incites, or calls for violence or physical harm against an individual or a group of people; likewise, do not post content that glorifies or encourages the abuse of animals.” This, too, required interpretation, and forced the company to create a non-exhaustive list of exceptions (“educational, newsworthy, artistic, satire, documentary”). Still, it made the team’s intentions clearer. Jessica Ashooh, Reddit’s head of policy, spent four years as a policy consultant in Abu Dhabi. “I know what it’s like to live under censorship,” she said. “My internal check, when I’m arguing for a restrictive policy on the site, is Do I sound like an Arab government? If so, maybe I should scale it back.” On the other hand, she said, “people hide behind the notion that there’s a bright line between ideology and action, but some ideologies are inherently more violent than others.”
In October, on the morning the new policy was rolled out, Ashooh sat at a long conference table with a dozen other employees. Before each of them was a laptop, a mug of coffee, and a few hours’ worth of snacks. “Welcome to the Policy Update War Room,” she said. “And, yes, I’m aware of the irony of calling it a war room when the point is to make Reddit less violent, but it’s too late to change the name.” The job of policing Reddit’s most pernicious content falls primarily to three groups of employees—the community team, the trust-and-safety team, and the anti-evil team—which are sometimes described, respectively, as good cop, bad cop, and RoboCop. Community stays in touch with a cross-section of redditors, asking them for feedback and encouraging them to be on their best behavior. When this fails and redditors break the rules, trust and safety punishes them. Anti-evil, a team of back-end engineers, makes software that flags dodgy-looking content and sends that content to humans, who decide what to do about it.
I’m pretty sure my boyfriend is a Reddit troll
Dear Dr. Date,
Lately, I’ve been noticing a really troubling pattern when it comes to the things my boyfriend says online.
It took me a while to figure it out because he used to do things I could excuse as inside jokes or ribbing: He commented “lame” under his little sister’s selfie on Instagram; he replied with a vomit emoji on his aunt’s Facebook post about breastfeeding positivity; he’s always made fun of me for listening to Taylor Swift and watching rom coms.
With us living together during the pandemic, I’ve noticed it more and more, and it’s made me start to feel really bad about myself and the things I like. I’ve tried to start conversations with him about it, but he refuses to budge. He’s even started calling me “feminazi” as a joke, but I don’t think it’s funny.
Am I the crazy one here? Is there something I can say to stick up for myself (and, you know, all women ever)?
Mad About Misogyny
Dear Mad About Misogyny,
You’re not crazy.
Many of the women I know have struggled with misogyny in their relationships, but usually never to this scale. I don’t want to tell you to just dump his ass, but it doesn’t seem like he’s receptive to much else.
It is not your job to educate or defend yourself to this man. You should be able to feel free to enjoy and indulge in the things you like without worrying about being judged in your own home by someone who is supposed to love you.
Besides, as we all know, it’s not cool to hate Taylor Swift anymore.
Are you romantically bewildered? Are you sexually consternated, and is your relationship status a little too complicated? Want advice from the Minnesota Daily’s in-house love doctor? Email Dr. Date at [email protected].
Developers of Apex Legendstried on Reddit to apologize for and explain a snafu involving cosmetic items in the game’s current Iron Crown event. It did not go well. At all.
The thread devolved into an eye-popping series of insults and grievances — from Respawn Entertainment developers — that magnified players’ bad will toward the studio and the game. The result is an outraged Apex Legends subreddit this morning reposting screenshots of the most inflammatory comments and boiling with resentment at those who wrote them.
To recap what kicked this off, the Iron Crown event introduced new skins when it launched earlier this week, but players could only get them by grinding against a difficult and expensive loot box mechanism. Fans immediately pushed back, feeling that Respawn had gone too far in its monetization of the free-to-play game this time.
Late Friday, Respawn announced changes to Iron Crown cosmetics, making them available for direct purchase with the game’s in-world currency (which also can be bought for real money). The official blog post announcing the changes made an apology, saying the studio “need[s] to be better at letting our players know what to expect,” and that the situation “has been a huge learning experience for us.” A post made to the Apex Legends subreddit on Friday night attempted to say the same thing.
It got ugly, and even uglier when fed-up Respawn developers hauled off on angry players. Many of the developers’ comments, particularly those from one by the handle dk05, have been deleted. This seems to be the one making everyone the angriest:
That was followed by:
Still another, where players are called “freeloaders.”
The community manager even got into it:
This morning, posts about the flame war dominate the subreddit’s front page, led by an open letter to Respawn from the community. In it, redditor cooloats says the studio “committed the ultimate cardinal sin, you got personal.
“We won’t forget this,” they wrote. “You’ve set a new tone for the kind of interaction we’ll be having with you. It’s a cold one.”
We’ve reached out to representatives of Respawn and Electronic Arts to ask for additional comment on this mess, but being a Sunday morning, that may not be coming until more senior types can get in, triage this situation, and try to explain it.
Update (Aug 20): Respawn CEO Vince Zampella has apologized on behalf of Respawn, stating that the developer wants to have an “open, healthy relationship with our community.”
Avengers: Endgame will reportedly spend a full three hours on the climactic battle between the Avengers and Thanos, the unstoppable force that turned great swaths of Earth’s population into dust at the end of 2018’s Infinity War. But while Marvel Entertainment continues to build buzz and uncertainty around the highly anticipated end of a saga told by more than a decade’s worth of superhero movies, some fans already have a theory as to what’s going to go down. It’s a theory that has gained so much traction online that even the movie’s directors — and the man behind Thanos himself — have joined in.
I’ll toss out a spoiler warning, just in case this theory turns out to be true. Because what we are about to discuss is so stupid, so implausible, it almost makes sense:
Ant-Man will defeat Thanos by crawling up the Mad Titan’s butt and expanding inside of him.
Yes, the idea of an Avenger killing off the ultimate enemy by climbing into his butt is a goofy fan theory, and a gross one at that. But that hasn’t stopped fans from standing by it for nearly two years now. What was once a Reddit joke has become a widespread meme, and some Marvel fans are arguing that, hey, maybe this potential plot turn is actually a great idea. And there may even be a real chance for Ant-Man to destroy Thanos from within, as wild as that sounds — because there’s legitimate comic book precedent for the tactic.
You can thank (or blame) Reddit for this theory
According to Know Your Meme, the origins of this radical theory about Endgame’s true, well, end game date back to before Avengers: Infinity War was released. Perhaps a bold assertion to some, the Thanus Theory (as I’ll conveniently dub it for now) actually has years of support behind it, in one form or another.
Ant-Man (played by Paul Rudd) isn’t an especially prominent Avenger, with only two solo films to his name; he also was absent from Infinity War, the most visible Marvel playground thus far.
But the quippy hero also known as Scott Lang remains a force to be reckoned with, as made especially clear in 2016’s Captain America: Civil War, which set the stage for Infinity War. Where 2015’s Ant-Man focused on establishing the origins of snarky criminal Lang and his growth into his superhero role, Civil War gave the character and his size-changing skills a great showcase. In Civil War, his suit has been upgraded to be much more powerful, allowing him to do much more than shrink to insect-size, as seen in his own movie. The movie reveals that Ant-Man can actually grow 60 feet tall too, into a super-strong hero appropriately called Giant Man.
And the Giant Man reveal is a key element of the Thanus Theory, because Ant-Man’s ability to shrink and expand is exactly how fans think he can help the Avengers win the final battle against Thanos.
In July 2017, when Marvel fans knew little about Infinity War beyond its promise of an Avengers-Thanos showdown, Reddit users began to brainstorm some of the “worst ways to they can stop Thanos.” Maybe Thanos would die on his own of natural causes. Maybe the whole ordeal would turn out to be Tony Stark’s dream.
Or maybe the Hulk would borrow Ant-Man’s suit, shrink down, crawl into Thanos’s mouth, and journey into his digestive system, before taking him down from within in especially gross and graphic fashion, as posited by Reddit user sodabased:
As soon as the Hulk makes it to the urethra he turns his suit off.
Thanos’s manhood explodes as a blood-covered Hulk emerges from the bloody mess. Thanos falls down unconscious and slowly bleeds to death.
The camera tightens on Spiderman who looks at Doctor Strange, “Well let that be a lesson for ya Doc! Hulk smash Kidney Stones!”
The camera then pans to each and every one of the heroes who have survived the war as they do a good guffaw.
Sodabased’s theory became the top-rated reply in the thread, and hailed as not the worst way to kill the unstoppable Thanos, but the best. But why let Hulk take care of business, some fans wondered, suggesting that Ant-Man could, and should, do it himself.
This idea was reinforced when another Reddit user made a corresponding poster and uploaded it to the Marvel subreddit in December 2017, albeit one that suggested a much less obscene process than sodabased’s. Tiny Ant-Man could crawl into Thanos’s ear and simply destroy him from inside his head. The poster begat less conversation, but it still received a lot of attention, earning more than 1,200 upvotes.
After that, however, fans by began prepping for Infinity War with more legitimate speculation as 2018 rolled around. Things were quiet for a while on the Thanus Theory front — but that changed when Infinity War finally arrived.
Maybe Ant-Man skipped Infinity War to prep for his big finale
Cut to April 2018. Infinity War is out. A lot of our superhero friends have been turned to dust by Thanos’s Infinity Gauntlet. Audiences, who show up to see the film in droves, are left to speculate which heroes are truly dead, how some of them might return, and whether any of the original Avengers will survive the next movie.
But one Avenger who does not appear in Infinity War whatsoever is Ant-Man.
His absence is notable, but it’s not explained during Infinity War. In fact, Marvel didn’t reveal Ant-Man’s whereabouts until July 2018, when one of Ant-Man and the Wasp’s end credits scenesshowed that he’s trapped inside the quantum realm — alive, thankfully, but currently unable to participate in all the world-saving business the rest of the Avengers are up to.
So in the period between Infinity War’s release and that of the Ant-Man sequel, fans are forced to draw their own conclusions. It’s at this point that Twitter user Filmgloss finds viral fame by dredging up memories of that old Thanus Theory Reddit post from 2017:
Filmgloss’s tweet was popular on Twitter, garnering more than 11,000 retweets and 30,000 likes. But it gained even more traction on Tumblr, where a screencap of the tweet now has more than 83,000 notes and counting. From there, it even made its way to Paul Rudd himself, when a journalist asked him about it during the Ant-Man and the Wasp press tour.
Rudd expressed his doubts that such a plan would work, though he didn’t veto it outright. Ant-Man and the Wasp came and went, and once again, online discussion of the Thanus Theory died down — until now, as Marvel fans on Tumblr, Twitter, Facebook, and, naturally, Reddit, have once again raised the idea in the lead-up to Endgame.
It helps that Ant-Man has appeared in a handful of Endgame trailers over the past few months, thus confirming that he’ll appear in the final Avengers film. And one of those trailers even suggests that he may hold the answer to fighting back against Thanos’s seemingly unstoppable finger snap.
But Know Your Meme attributes the latest resurgence of the Thanus Theory to a much more recent Reddit discussion, which saw a comment in a new Endgame trailer thread garner more than 15,000 upvotes.
“Are we still betting on Ant-Man defeating Thanos by crawling up his butt then expanding?” asked a user named Aimless Devastator on March 14, after the movie’s most recent trailer premiered.
For many Marvel fans on Tumblr and Twitter, the answer seems to be an unwavering yes. And as a result, ahead of Endgame’s April release, the Thanus Theory has achieved major meme status, with years of build-up behind it:
Importantly, the Thanus Theory appears to have the support of three influential members of the MCU: Josh Brolin, who plays Thanos, and the Russo brothers, who directed both Infinity War and Endgame.
Brolin uploaded a video to Instagram of him preparing to “#flushantman”:
And the Russo brothers changed their Instagram profile picture with a version of the meme:
Why this theory may not be as ridiculous as it sounds
Marvel fans who subscribe to the Thanus Theory aren’t backing down, continuing to spread the meme on social media. And on some level their hearts are in the right place: It would be nice to give Ant-Man a big moment in Endgame, even if said moment could easily be taken to some inappropriate, offensive places by certain fans. It’s not like Marvel movies haven’t indulged in some ridiculous humor once in a while.
But regardless of whether people are caught up in the juvenile humor of the Thanus Theory, there’s actually some serious canonical credence to it. Jokesters on Reddit aren’t the first to think of the tactic of literally taking Thanos down from within. Marvel has considered it too — via a character only recently introduced to the Marvel Cinematic Universe: Monica Rambeau, the daughter of Carol Danvers’s best friend and, in the comic books, a former Captain Marvel herself.
As Vox’s Alex Abad-Santos previously noted:
“During [writer Al] Ewing’s run on The Ultimates (2015), a series about a band of superheroes (including Monica and Carol) who are dealing with cosmic threats, Monica manipulates her energy form to actually enter Thanos’s brain to try to kill the Mad Titan,” as seen in the following frame:
Note that Monica failed to actually kill off Thanos this way; though she managed to make it into his head and hurt him, Thanos ultimately regained control of his brain and forced her out of it. But the attempt does provide an important precedent. And one could reasonably argue, silly though it may sound, that Thanos has more finely tuned control over his brain than he does of his bowels and colon. Perhaps there really is an, uh, opening for Ant-Man to exploit.
But even if Ant-Man doesn’t ultimately destroy Thanos by shrinking down, climbing inside of him, and then growing to be 60-plus feet tall, he could certainly make an honest effort. Better that Ant-Man get the kill over a different forgotten Avenger: Hawkeye.
Avengers: Endgame comes out in theaters April 26.
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The Great PAWG Migration: Why Reddit Is the New Home of Ass Content
It’s not easy finding ass on Instagram anymore. Sure, you might still be able to post it yourself, or continue to follow a selection of women with the wagon, but gone are the days of the high-level ass-curation account. In previous years, accounts like @buttsnorkeler and @whitegirlsevolving (whose names have since changed) embodied coveted Instagram real estate. Women, particularly PAWGs (phat-ass white girls), would often pay to be posted on such accounts, or otherwise get lucky and have their photos shared. Either way, appearing on them almost guaranteed a surge of new followers and the opportunities that can come with them, from brand deals to lucrative OnlyFans accounts. But this ass economy has all but collapsed — except on PAWG Reddit.
PAWG Reddit: What Happened to Instagram?
As Instagram becomes increasingly puritanical, most of these large accounts have been deleted. Attempts at re-creating them have come up short: Keeping the account private makes it less likely to be taken down, but it also slows growth. Without the hundreds of thousands of followers or ability to appear on Explore pages, they no longer have the clout they did before. As such, there’s far less incentive for women looking to build a paying fanbase to pay to appear on butt-centric accounts, especially when Reddit offers similar opportunities for free.
On PAWG Reddit, just about anyone can promote their content for free and on their own terms. Though some subreddits require certain protocols before someone can post and have 18+ restrictions, there’s little chance of Reddit deleting erotic photos unless they break laws. For that reason, Reddit has become one of the primary places for adult content creators to promote their work.
The Best of PAWG Reddit, From FrogButt to BigAsses
This is especially true for people who promote according to a specific niche. Per RedditList.com, there are nearly 800 NSFW subreddits with at least 3,000 members each. Beyond the classics like r/GoneWild, r/NSFW and r/RealGirls, some of the most popular subreddits focus upon particular pornographic niches like PAWGs. r/PAWG is itself the 25th most popular NSFW subreddit, with 879,000 members. Before posting, women must be “verified” by the mods by sending in multiple photos utilizing specific poses to prove their PAWG-iness, as well as a photo proving their identity. Once in, though, the subreddit seems to be a boon. Almost all the women who post either watermark their photos with their OnlyFans username, or direct users to a link in their Reddit bio.
Other NSFW groups like r/asstastic, r/thick and r/bigasses feature similar PAWG content. There’s also r/hungrybutts, r/upvotebecausebutt, r/hotbutts, r/booty_queens and r/frogbutt. Some prohibit explicit advertising in the form of OnlyFans watermarks or directing users to their profiles where an OnlyFans link is listed. Nevertheless, were it not beneficial for content creators to post in these groups, it’s unlikely they would.
The PAWG OnlyFans Funnel
An added bonus to promoting OnlyFans content for PAWGs on Reddit is the option of greater anonymity. Many of the women don’t show their face at all. Though this doesn’t guarantee they won’t somehow be outed to their family or otherwise identified, it still offers a layer of distance between adult work and the everyday self for those who want it.
The biggest benefit of PAWG Reddit, though, is that while there may be some rules and restrictions in place, the platform is far less prudish than Instagram. Though a few model-centric, vaguely erotic accounts still exist on the Gram, they often seem run by bots. One account, for example, @townbabez, has over 2 million followers and regularly posts bikini and lingerie photos of voluptuous women. The accounts tagged in the photos, however, often belong to different women entirely.
This all points to another growing rift between Instagram’s overall ethos/aesthetic and the current desires of adult content consumers — that is, Instagram feels largely fake in a time when people are increasingly in search of authentic pornographic work. Thus, Reddit has become the central site of this new type of self-advertisement. Though subreddit moderators may function similarly to the Instagram account owners of years prior, the exchange of adult content on Reddit remains largely between the creators and consumers themselves. Now, OnlyFans fame isn’t simply for the women who’ve been able to build an Instagram following utilizing ass-repost accounts before their demise — instead, the PAWGs need only post to their designated subreddit. The fans will come to them.
The Best of NSFW Reddit
Magdalene Taylor is a staff writer at MEL. She covers internet culture, sex and the online adult industry. She lives in Brooklyn but is from God's Country, Western Massachusetts.
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