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I’m going to divert from my Me At 22 series to go through what happened to me last week because it captures who I am now, who I was before, and what I still need to work on incredibly well. It reveals a very ugly part of me, but I realized that this is an opportunity to admit and accept fault, which will help me grow (I hope). Moreover, I’ve been dissatisfied with my explanation of my affinity to anime and tsundere characters in my previous post, and this post will be an excellent extension to that.

So last week, I got into an argument with a friend. It was honestly so s…silly, but afterwards, I found myself feeling angry to the extent I haven’t felt angry in years.

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You know, I was initially planning to cite quotes from our conversation to show how miscommunication can happen. I was going to expertly navigate through what was said and provide commentary on what the emotions and intentions behind their phrasing was. But I couldn’t.

Going back to look at what I had said, I was reliving the frustrations over and over again, and I was quickly overwhelmed by it. And it was really difficult, even though it wasn’t my intention, to not draw sympathy towards myself over my friend. So instead, I’ll first admit that I got angry from our misunderstandings, and provide the context:

I’ve been sharing my most recent post with my friends and family (which btw, has been incredible–thank you). I shared it again when my friend asked what I had been doing lately, and I explained to him that the post was about my struggle with communicating my cultural identity. In response, my friend began to tell me about his own thoughts and experiences regarding cultural identity.

After listening to him for a bit, I decided that I didn’t like what he was saying because I felt that he didn’t really understand–or was acknowledging–the ‘pain’ behind my cultural alienation. So I told him. Or I tried, and my friend tried to assure me that he understood, and so I tried explaining how that’s not what I meant…

What transpired was a series of misunderstandings and increased emotional involvement. Ideas were repeated, earlier parts of our conversation were referenced, and the conversation eventually ended when our patience ran out. I was so upset at the end, and I could barely hold it together.

Throughout the conversation, my friend didn’t to understand me, which aggravated my frustrations in trying to explain it to him. All he did in response was justifying himself and not actually acknowledging my cultural alienation. That is, this is all from my perspective.

I should really say that he didn’t seem to understand me. The nature of miscommunication is that, I don’t actually know. And in either case, what sucks is that, stripping down all the semantics and words, my friend was just trying to help me. I tried hard to be aware of this fact throughout our conversation (and I learned to do this from many experiences with arguing in the past), but it proved to be too difficult when my insecurities were involved.

Yes, I realized mid-conversation that I was still insecure about my anime fandom (because of my relationship with Chris), but I was still insistent on my friend acknowledging that he came off in a way that seemed standoffish or indifferent. I even admitted that I was being emotional, and tried explaining why I was hurt. But here’s probably the perfect example of our communication failure:

Me: Like you don’t say calm down to someone who’s upset. That’s pretty obvious right?Him: I never told you to calm down.

Like this, I kept on getting more and more frustrated in my efforts:

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But I eventually started to see my friend’s perspective as well. How he was only trying to encourage me not to feel alienated by letting me know that I’m not alone in this, and how I’m being unfair because all my friend did was respond to the topic I myself brought up. It made sense. I even realized then that some of the things I said in trying to explain my perspective must have come off as invalidating his cultural identity problems.

Instead of my anger dissipating at this understanding, I became even more frustrated. I couldn’t believe how difficult it was to communicate my feelings, and even more so to get a satisfying response. Regardless of his perspective, why was it so hard for my friend to acknowledge that how he is coming across was hurting me?

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And when he did say sorry, it was too late. By that time, I was too hurt by the fact that it exhausted me and required me to be vulnerable to explain myself to him. I mean why do I have to be the one to look at both sides when I’m the one who’s hurt?

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The thing is, at the same time, I knew how selfish and immature my emotional state was. So I was frustrated and embarrassed by the fact I genuinely felt upset over all of this. Next came all the other confusion, regret, and shame.

‘Why was I so keen on communicating to my friend that I didn’t like the way he responded to me? What gives me the right to criticize how he talks? Isn’t my perspective just self-victimizing? Am I not being self-righteous in trying to get him to admit a certain fault? This whole thing is stupid. What was the point of all that? What’s wrong with me?’

What tipped me over the edge was when I instinctively tried to reach out to a friend to talk about it. But it was Chris, and in that moment, thinking of his unavailability towards the topic, I felt backed up against a wall. My chest started to hurt. I felt like crying. I felt anger and bitterness come up. The following is just what I wrote my in journal at the time. It’s sort of a reiteration of what I said but more in a more pure and emotional form:

I feel so alienated. It’s partly my fault but could you guys just try to be a little more understanding? It’s so hard and no one seems to get it. I think I hate people if this is what’s to be expected. How should I face this? Being extremely sad or extremely angry? You just don’t get it.

I’m so angry, and I’m also angry at myself. I feel like no one understands except me. I feel lonely but angry. It makes me want to distance myself from people. Because I don’t want to see another reaction like that again. I tried so hard. Maybe I’m scared. But I’m mostly angry. Angry that they don’t get it. Angry that they get to live their happy lives without feeling like this.

I’m frustrated in thinking of putting in the effort to communicate myself. From what I’ve seen, it’s impossible. I feel so drained. I don’t want to reach out. That person who’s my friend is never good at supporting me. And I don’t want to explain this because I’ll look pathetic, selfish, and pitiful. I don’t want help, because you won’t understand. I don’t trust you. What do you know about my pain that’s so alienating?

I’m angry because I feel like I have no choice. Who will listen? No forget that, who will listen and be able to understand? This is bitterness. Holding it in is like poison. But I can’t forgive those who hurt me. It’s this process of sinking deeper and deeper into a world of hatred. I feel justified in feeling the way I do, even though it’s frustrating. I don’t want to face anyone. I just want to disappear. So much shame. This is obviously like, not a good state of mind. But what do I do?

So… that’s kind of dramatic, but also being honest. As I’ve mentioned before, I like tsundere characters because I feel like they represent me. People generally dislike them and feel that their emotional behavior is annoying and stuff, but… I’m just like that, especially when I’m like this. I don’t try to be but I’m still like that.

There’s a scene from NHK where the main character tries to kill himself, and other people telling him not to do it only motivates him further. When I saw this scene, I empathized with him. This is what happens when alienation drives anger, bitterness, and isolation. It’s quite a poisonous mind state, and most people don’t know how to approach it. But seeing that scene made me feel like someone else really gets me.

Here are some other anime instances that resonates with my emotions:

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First slide: “The vice captain…”
In all seriousness, I do think that this personality trait can trigger, perpetuate, or aggravate mental illness symptoms.

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First slide: “I must…”
This is when anger turns into into envy and hatred.

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First slide: “I can’t…”
This is typical tsundere regret and introspection.

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Self explanatory.

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Sort of NSFW. First slide: “If you’ve…”
This depicts the doubt of others not understanding our pain.

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First slide is: “Often I…”
This depicts putting distance to avoid problems.

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This depicts wanting to be left alone to avoid problems.

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This depicts not wanting to be alone, despite pushing people away.

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First slide: “I’m starting to…”
This describes self-victimizing characteristics.

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Self explanatory.

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This depicts feeling bad after being emotional.

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This depicts some classic self loathing.

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Self explanatory.

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First slide: “is that…”
This reveals the nature of “self-created” problems.

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First slide: “I don’t know…”
This depicts the fact that depression can make you feel like you shouldn’t feel happy.

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First slide: “I know I…”
This describing victimizing, blaming, and how it hurts others around you.

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First slide: “It was so bright…”
This describes self loathing, the severity of which happens with prolonged bitterness.

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First slide: “No way.”
This depicts inconveniencing friends, but in a good way.

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First slide: “At the time…”
This depicts why someone might isolate themselves.

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This depicts being scared of getting hurt again.

 

So the argument I mentioned happened last Saturday afternoon. As the day came to a close, I realized that I had church the next morning, which was an uncomfortable realization. What should I do? I was still angry, and I had fully transitioned into self loathing and hating people. And I thought I would stay in this state indefinitely. How could I go to church like this? Plus I’d see Chris. Do I put up a facade? But that’s so uncomfortable…

So what I did was, because I was told to, I gave it up to God. It didn’t make any sense and I didn’t want to, but I just did it. And I also went to church the next morning, with the spirit of duty over my feelings.

Our pastor David opened up with Romans 7:15

I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do.

That’s a tongue twister but I was like, yeah I get that. I won’t summarize the sermon but it reminded me that the horrible state I was in was not me, and that God’s grace was even bigger. David went on to describe something that would become incredibly useful in explaining my anime fandom:

So many things in my life are special but I never understood why. Christmas is an example. It’s my favourite time of year, but it wasn’t until I was in my 40’s before I realized that the warm, comforting feelings that surround me at Christmas go all the way back to my early childhood when my whole family was together. It was a safe time filled with joy and anticipation and safety and belonging–even though all the other days reminded me of war surrounding us in Vietnam, and loneliness, and shame. Christmas was my childhood’s safe place. As an adult I was able to connect the dots and realize why it is doubly significant for me today. It was one of the first places God showed me that I was genuinely special.

We had communion that Sunday. David prompted us that communion is about declaring Jesus’ death over our lives, proclaiming His authority over any difficult aspects of our life. I knew what I had to do, and I knew how to say it. I went over to Chris and asked him to pray for me.

I told him that I hadn’t forgiven him in my heart for his attitude towards me watching anime. I told him that anime was my safe place, and somewhere I could remember that I am loved. Chris told me that he didn’t understand before and that he was sorry. And I believed him. Chris prayed the words, “thank you for Simon’s strength because it’s something that only he can do.”.

And that was it. That did it. I no longer felt angry, and I felt so glad that I came to church. Chris summed it up beautifully afterwards, saying that, in the end, anime and hip hop are just mediums in which people can connect with each other, and God can use both.

Throughout this emotional experience, I learned, once again, that it’s fear that separates us from love.

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Since then, I’ve been thinking a lot about the concept of space that reminds people that they’re truly loved. Looking at mindfulness, attention, meditation, being absorbed, not worrying about being and just being, etc…

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Fun fact. Kaze from BTT has an awesome post called The Christian Tsundere that also quotes Romans 5:17. It’s a really good read.

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Great advice from reddit: listen to understand rather than listen to respond.

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Excerpt from Joy Everyday: May 20 – “Jesus Calling”, by Sarah Young

When your sins weigh heavily upon you, come to Me. Confess your wrongdoing, which I know all about before you say a word. Stay in the Light of My Presence, receiving forgiveness, cleansing, and healing. Remember that I have clothed you in My righteousness, so nothing can separate you from Me. Whenever you stumble or fall, I am there to help you up.

Man’s tendency is to hide from his sin, seeking refuge in the darkness. There he indulges in self-pity, denial, self-righteousness, blaming, and hatred. But I am the Light of the world, and My illumination decimates the darkness. Come close to Me and let My Light envelop you, driving out darkness and permeating you with Peace.

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Tsundere

Personality

Loveless, jealous, self-denying, emotionally unstable, temperamental, angry, close-minded, selfish, rude, harsh, hypocritical, mean, hot-blooded, violent, lovestruck, cynical, immature, insensitive, hostile, deceptive, vengeful, dramatic, self-destructive, bittersweet, manipulative. distant, irritated

"F-Fall for me? This is hardly the time for that kind of thing! But if you want to keep going, I guess I could force myself to listen..."
Rin Tohsaka, from Fate/stay night.

Not to be confused with "Hinedere", "Himedere", "Oujidere", "Kamidere", "Bokodere" or "Kitikudere".

Tsundere is a stock love interest who is usually stern, cold, and sometimes hostile to the person they like and others. They will occasionally let slip their warm and loving feelings hidden inside. They hide their feelings due to being shy, nervous, insecure, or simply unable to help acting badly in front of their crush.

The Japanese term "tsundere" refers to an outwardly violent character who "runs hot and cold", alternating between two distinct moods: "tsuntsun" meaning "aloof or irritable", and "deredere" meaning "lovey-dovey".

Tsundere is a Japanese term for a character development process that depicts a person who is initially cold (and sometimes even hostile), before gradually showing a warmer, friendlier side over time. Originally found in Japanese bishōjo games, the word is now part of the otaku moe phenomenon, reaching into other media such as maid cafés, anime, manga, novels, and even mass media. The term was made popular in the visual novel Kimi ga Nozomu Eien.

Personality

A tsundere is a character who pretends not to be interested in someone else, but keeps doing things for that person. They even keep saying they are not actually interested in their love interest. They are characters who aren't honest with themselves and their feelings, or are too embarrassed to admit they love someone.

A tsundere will often say things like:

  • betsu ni anata no tame X janai desu kara 別にあなたのためにXじゃないですから !
    It's not like [I did] X because I like you or anything!
  • betsu ni suki janai ndakara! 別に好きじゃないんだから!
    It's not like I like you or anything!
  • kanchigai shinaide! 勘違いしないで!
    Don't get the wrong idea!

Plus, plenty of them call their love interest "baka" (馬鹿), meaning "idiot".

The word "sunao" (素直), "honest," would be what a tsundere is not. That is, "sunao janai" (素直じゃない), "not honest (about their feelings)."

Most of the time, a tsundere character has a "holier than thou" attitude. In the case of a tsundere girl, she could be from a rich family, an "ojousama" (お嬢様), while the guy is a poor commoner/peasant. Other examples include:

Her being the president of the school student council, and the guy a delinquent.

A bad student, or a dude who just transferred into a school that was an all-girls school last semester and now he is one of the few guys enrolled facing absurd alienation instead of everybody minding their own business and just studying.

The tsundere and their romantic interest are usually given a reason in their backstory for the tsundere to reject their love interest so that they might maintain appearance. And then some reason to love this person for the sake of the plot. That's where the "tsundere" conflict comes from.

The tsundere stock characterization is very popular with writers of Romantic Comedy, because the conflicts between the two personality facets can be easily utilized to generate both drama and comedy. It also acts as a source of Wish Fulfillment. Specifically, the idea that every independent, hardened, and just plain jerky love interest (male or female) has a squishy emotional center that will embrace you after you crack their outer shell.

The difference between a tsundere and a bokodere is that the bokodere characters are a more shy versions of tsundere, who would only show their more aggressive personality when embarrassed by others. They are a combination of tsundere and dandere.

The difference between a tsundere and a hinedere is that hinedere characters are less short-tempered and more arrogant than tsundere. They only want to be the best at everything.

The difference between a tsundere and a himedere is that himedere characters act sort of similar to a tsundere, but demand to be treated like queens and princesses.

The difference between a tsundere and a oujidere is that oujidere characters act sort of similar to a tsundere, but demand to be treated like kings and princes. This is the male equivalent of himedere.

Meaning

Tsundere Word Origin

The "tsun" (ツン) in the Japanese word "tsundere" (ツンデレ) comes from the word "tsuntsun" (つんつん), which is a mimetic word for "irritable" or "grumpy". This means that they are someone who is tsuntsun when they become hard to approach and to talk with.

When you're tsuntsun you just refuse to hear what others have to say. You say "hmph!" and turn away. In comparison, tsundere characters say "hmph!" and turn away, but eventually they turn back.

People can be tsuntsun just for a while, one isn't necessarily always tsuntsun. It's like being happy or sad. Also, being tsuntsun is completely different from being tsundere. Someone who is tsuntsun is just grumpy. Tsuntsun has nothing to do with romance clichés.

That means "tsundere" (ツンデレ) is actually short for "tsuntsun deredere" as two abbreviations in one word.

The term was originally used to describe characters who began with a harsh outgoing personality, but slowly revealed a soft and vulnerable interior over time. This made it a plot trope as much as it is a character trope. Over the years, the character archetype has become oversimplified, and is now generically associated with a character who flips between the two emotional states at the slightest provocation, usually at a specific person rather than a general sociability problem. The former is usually referred to as "Classic Tsundere" and the latter as "Modern Tsundere". A tsundere, especially a classic and female one, is usually a Tomboy with a Girly Streak.

The tsuntsun can range from the cold "silent treatment" to the hotheaded "kindergartner who pushes you into the sandbox." The reasons behind a tsundere's behavior vary widely, but usually boil down to the conflict between their feelings of affection towards a love interest, and their reaction to having those feelings.

Moe Factor

Tsundere characters are often times a tsundere for the sake of the show. They continue acting tsundere even after they have confessed their love, or started going out, or even gotten married and having children. Often times, this makes no sense whatsoever. In real life, sometimes people get caught behaving the same way, even if it is counterproductive. So that may explain why tsundere characters remain tsundere throughout the show.

The freezing of the character so that they are always tsundere happens because they are among the other types of "dere that are" considered to be "moe" (萌え) by some fans. Their popularity stems from their tsundere attribute, if they stop being tsundere, they stop being popular, so they can't change.

In manga, anime, games, and other forms of fiction of the harem genre, the goal of the author is to include as many types of "moe" as possible to please the widest audience. So all characters follow one archetype. There's always the smart, quiet type, the "genki" (元気) type, and, of course, the infamous tsundere type. Including at least one tsundere character is viewed as being almost a requirement when creating anime.

Tsundere vs. BST

The western slang BST, "belligerent sexual tension," is a bit similar to tsundere, but there's a difference between tsundere and BST.

First off, BST is a scenario. It happens when both parties like each other but either don't realize it, or don't want to admit it. Instead of confessing their feelings, they'll act like they aren't interested, because the character is one way or another, and they'd never date them, they hurl insults, violence, and so on.

Instead, tsundere is a type of character, not a scenario like in the case of BST. Often, tsundere characters are accompanied by the BST scenarios, however, there are also cases where one party is a belligerent tsundere and the other party is not belligerent at all. For example, the tsundere character acts like "they would never like someone like them." but the other part is unfazed by these comments.

Acting Tsundere

Because tsundere characters have been done to death, sometimes the classic tsundere attitude gets parodied in manga that don't really have tsundere characters.

When this happens, a character that isn't really a tsundere will say stuff a tsundere would usually say. They'll act like a tsundere (screaming BAKA!, Stating they don't like the person, and telling them not to get the wrong idea, etc.), but they won't really be a tsundere, because unless a character is not a tsundere all the time, they can't be really a tsundere. They will only be a tsundere for 2 minutes or even for a single panel only for the sake of the joke.

Terminology

Manga author Ken Akamatsu lists tsundere as one of the special cases in his definition of moe: "The person feeling it must be stronger: The object of 'moe' is weak and dependent (like a child) on the person, or is in a situation where she cannot oppose the person in charge (like a maid)... (Tsundere only: There will be times where the stronger and weaker role is reversed)." The concept has received increasing attention in Japan, with a maid cafe named Nagomi in Akihabara started having "Tsundere" events in 2006 and tsundere-themed products released (like Tomy Co.'s portable television set). The concept has increasingly been reflected in recent anime, with an extended discussion of the meaning of the concept and its origin on the Internet in Lucky Star's Lucky Channel segment classifying the characters according to tsundere-ness. Another accepted definition of tsundere is a girl or a guy who has a combative attitude toward others but is also kind on the inside. They usually play out as having an attitude toward the main character, either a male or a female, and often criticizing them in one way or another. Until they eventually warm up to them or fall in love with them as the series progresses, though they usually find it very hard to admit it or outright deny it in some cases.

Comiket organizer Koichi Ichikawa has described Lum Invader of Urusei Yatsura as being both the source of moe and the first tsundere[1]; figurine sculptor Bome has also cited Lum as an inspiration for his designs. Manga critic Jason Thompson named Madoka Ayukawa of the 1980s series Kimagure Orange Road as the root of the tsundere archetype. Other anime and manga featuring tsundere characters include Love Hina, Neon Genesis Evangelion, and Bakemonogatari, among many others. Some voice actors have garnered a reputation for voicing tsundere characters such as Rie Kugimiya who voices Louise in The Familiar of Zero (who might be better considered tsuntsun[1]), and Nagi in Hayate the Combat Butler. In Excel Saga volume 15, author Rikdo Koshi defines tsundere as "hard on the outside, soft on the inside" and associates it with character Misaki Matsuya.

Tsundere as a concept is not strictly limited to women, and is not strictly limited to manga or anime. The character Germany, from the series Hetalia: Axis Powers, is portrayed as being tsundere, and is paired with a "lovable loser", Italy Veneziano.

  1. ↑Lum behaved both as a Tsundere at times and Yandere at times because her "husband" (Technically, Lum decided they were married. They never actually got married by the state or in a church.), Ataru, was unfaithful. Had he been faithful she would have expressed her native Dere type, which is probably Deredere.

Variations

Gundere / Gandere ガンデレ

Gundere

Personality

Extreme tsundere


A "Gundere" or "Gandere" (ガンデレ), is someone who expresses their love with or towards "guns," or "gan" (ガン) in Japanese. This is usually in the form of firing said guns while blushing in excitement or similar reactions.

This is basically the same as tsundere but with some kind of firearm in their possession, which they will use when reacting in their tsundere mode.

A gundere is a character who is like "type A and B" of a tsundere but they are even violent on the outside.

Personality

Gundere is very much like tsundere but more extreme as they always carry a gun with them and pull out their gun when they blush at their love interest. This violent nature is similar to that of a yandere. However, a gundere doesn't kill for love and this is only a reaction they carry out, sometimes unconsciously, to protect and hide their emotions.

Meaning

The word is a combination of "gan" (ガン) which means "gun" and "deredere" ( デレデレ) which means "lovey-dovey".

Deretsun

Deretsun

Personality

Kind, sweet, angry, arrogant


A.K.A. Tsundere Type B.

Personality

These characters are nice, polite and friendly with others, but behave coldly and rudely towards some individual person, a lover or friend.

Meaning

Deretsun (デレツン) is a combination of "deredere" meaning "loving" and "caring", and "tsuntsun" meaning "angry" and "caustic". This subtype can be called tsundere and Vice Versa.

Tsunpure ツンプレ

Tsunpure

Personality

Honest, sensitive, temperamental


A "Tsunpure" refers to a character who are overly honest with others, but rarely honest with themselves. They usually treat people harshly right before asking for a favor and have pure hearts.

Personality

Tsunpure characters are often sensitive and temperamental, but only end up saying what they truly feel when they explode. They may act harshly, only to confess their problems moments later. They are kind, easily fooled, and pure-hearted people.

Meaning

The word is a compound of "tsun tsun" (ツンツン), meaning to turn away in disgust, and "pure" (プレ), supposedly just the English "pure".

Tsundra, Tsundora ツンドラ

Tsundra

Personality

Cold, cool, serious, brutally honest


A "Tsundra", or "Tsundora" (ツンドラ), is a like a tsundere without "dere" and filled with mercilessness instead. Basically, while a normal tsundere often calls the other person stupid and so on, they usually do it in a flustered way that hints they don't really mean that because they're secretly interested. A tsundra is different.

A tsundra will mercilessly make ice-cold comments about the other in their complete, absolute and unmistakably brutal rejection of whatever it is. The main point here is that they sound extremely serious and unfeeling about rejecting the other, therefore any sane person would get the hint and figure they actually mean it.

Example: in episode 1 of Bakemonogatari (化物語), Senjougahara says someone like her is called a tsundere, Araragi retorts, in thought, monologue-ing someone like her is called a tsundora instead.[2]

The word tsundra, and tsundora (ツンドラ), come from the word "tundra," which regards to ice cold lands that give few points in Sid Meier's Civilization.

Meaning

"tsun" (ツン) means "grumpy" and the full word "tsundra" refers to the word "tundra". Tundras are icy cold, much like how a tsundra acts.

Tsunshun ツンしゅん

A "Tsunshun" (ツンしゅん( character is a character that goes "tsun" (ツン) and then goes "shun" (しゅん).

Like a tsundere, they will act grumpy and reject or act uninterested about something. But where a tsundere would go "I'm doing it but it's not like I like you or anything" and try to accept what the other person has to say while trying to keep their "I'm not interested" mask, a tsunshun will not try to find a way to make things work. They will say "no" and then get depressed because they couldn't say "yes."

Example: They say, "No, I'm not going to the festival." while later thinking, "Why didn't I say yes and go to the festival?! Why?!".

It doesn't need to be a straight "no." It can be any "tsun" or anti-social thing. A tsunshun will reject others and act like they're above them. Later on, they blame themselves for doing this kind of stuff and not being sincere.

Tsuntere ツンテレ

Tsuntere (ツ ン テ レ) from "tsuntsun" meaning "angry" and "prickly", and "tereru" meaning "shy" is a subtype of shy tsundere, in which the tsun side is more pronounced.

These characters are not as cold as a normal tsundere and are much more likely to betray their feelings. They are less aggressive in the manifestation of the tsun side and they limit themselves to just using offensive words.

Tsun'aho ツンアホ

A "Tsun'aho" (ツンアホ) is a character that's been so tsuntsun all the time they became an "aho" (アホ(. In other words, a tsun'aho is a character that has tried so hard to look uninterested and not be honest with their feelings that they became an idiot.

It may also refer to a character who was an idiot from the start. They are tsuntsun on the outside and aho on the inside.

This term mostly refers to a person who, when introduced, sounds like they have two neurons to rub together, but then they meet a character whom they like, but don't want to admit they like, so they start saying stupid nonsense all the time to pretend they don't like them. Because they say and do so much stupid stuff to hide their secret feelings everybody knows about, people will start to thinking they're just an actual idiot.

Tsungire ツンギレ

Tsungire

Personality

stingy, angry, usually cruel, violent


A "Tsungire" (ツンギレ) character is a tsundere devoid of love and filled with rage instead.

This means a character that won't say "W-w-why would I do that for you? baka something-kun!" and will instead say "Why would I do that for you? **** off, you imbecile. Talk to me again and I'll make you regret being born into your pathetic life."

Because of this, tsungire characters are pretty much unapproachable. If you're smart and value your life, you wouldn't approach them, not even with a ten foot pole.

A tsungire character doesn't need to be in love with any character or even interested romantically. They are pretty much just "snapping" whenever someone bothers them with something.

What is Gire ギレ?

The suffix "gire" (ギレ) is sometimes added to these personality words instead of "dere" (デレ). Its meaning in words such as tsungire and yangire is that of "snapping" or "being mad" instead of dere types "being in love".

The word "gire" comes from the verb "kireru" (キレる), which means "to snap" or "to be mad [at someone or something]." To be at the end of your rope. To lose your patience. To be done with it [irritation source]. To have had the last drop. To explode with anger. To get the last string holding your temper is check cut. That's what "kireru" means.

The gire versions of personalities often have nothing to do with love or romance at all. People often attribute "~gire" as more violent versions of "~dere", but these two words aren't actually related. A character deemed "~gire" doesn't even need to be in love or feel romantically towards somone. They just lean towards aggressive, abusive, and violent behavior.

The part of the word "kireru" that becomes the suffix is "kire", but it becomes "gire" instead because of a process called "rendaku" that changes the pronunciation of suffixes.

TsunTsun and DereDere

Tsundere can be divided into two main categories, depending on their default mood:

Harsh (or Tsun): These tsundere types have tsuntsun as their default mood. It takes someone special to trigger their deredere side. The intensity of the tsuntsun can range from simple grumpy pessimism to "I must glare and fight my way through life". It's about which part of the tsundere personality is the public face and which is the hidden. If the tsundere is a rival, they are more likely to be Harsh. Helping a rival out is usually accompanied by a line like "Don't get me wrong, I'm not doing this for you."

Harsh types can overlap with a jerk with a heart of gold, but usually not. The moods of a tsundere tend to switch in reaction to the actions of select people or adverse scenarios; the deredere side usually only comes out when someone has acted in a way to trigger it. A jerk with a heart of gold is jerkish in general regardless of whether the other person is mean or nice, and shows their hidden heart of gold only when the situation warrants, regardless of how the other person had been acting. In particular, male characters should be considered for jerk with a heart of gold status. This is probably because of Double Standards. Men are generally viewed as jerks with a hearts' of gold instead of Tsundere, although the kuudere subtype is more equally split in gender. "Oranyan" is sometimes used to refer to a male tsundere character—incorrectly since it means the complete opposite.

Sweet (or Dere): These tsundere have deredere as their default mood. They are sweet, kind, and generous, but just happen to have a hidden violent side as well. Either they have Belligerent Sexual Tension, are an Accidental Pervert, or just have no idea how to handle feelings of love and attraction. In some cases, an Armored Closet Gay character may act like a tsundere to mask their feelings for the object of their same-sex affection. Tsundere characters may also overlap with Violently Protective Girlfriend/Boyfriend if their Love Interest is threatened or in danger.

Sweet types should also not be confused with a yandere. If a Sweet tsundere were really convinced that their Love Interest didn't want them, they would revert back to the deredere side and probably enter an "I want my beloved to be happy" phase, while yandere characters are not good with rejection at all and have been known to get downright murderous under such circumstances.

This site has an explanation on the appeal of the tsundere character.

A common way of showing that a tsundere has mellowed or has had their heart won over by their love interest is to have them shift from harsh to sweet. If their motivations are inquired, they will often engage in a Suspiciously Specific Denial, complete with a luminescent blush and total evasion of eye contact (cue the squeaks of Moe).

When paired with a jerk with a heart of gold, together they produce Belligerent Sexual Tension. If done poorly, the result is an unintentionally unsympathetic Jerk Sue (A character trope about someone who's violent and abusive to point that the audience can't stand the person).

Do not confuse this dere type with a Mood-Swinger, who flips between all the emotional states (not just tsuntsun and deredere), and is more of an inherent mental problem encompassing more than just their romantic life. Also don't confuse tsundere with playing hard to get, where a love interest deliberately chooses not to reciprocate their pursuer's interest until they're quite certain that the love interest is truly interested in only them.

Psychologically, tsundere-like behavior could be an example of "splitting", a maladaptive coping mechanism wherein a person alternately idealizes and undervalues others, including potential romantic interests.

This dere type is older than dirt, dating back to at least ancient Mesopotamia[citation needed].

Analysis

Tsuntsun strategies vary greatly...

  1. The Cold Shoulder: In employing this tactic, the tsundere resolves to not give the other person in question the time of day. If the tsundere does talk to them, responses will be monosyllabic. Pointedly ignoring them in conversation and disdainful looks round out the cold shoulder that they will lay on the hapless fellow.
  2. The Violent Approach: Things get physical, and not in the good way. The tsundere, in a bad mood by this point, will punctuate verbal abuse with plenty of good old fashioned violence. Kicks, punches, slaps, and other painful forms of beatdown will follow. Heaven help you if they got a Paper Fan or a Hyperspace Mallet; the more dangerous ones may even wield a whip.
  3. The Taunt: Not as common a tactic, but effective in its own right, is for the tsundere to constantly belittle the love interest with insults and putdowns. Favorite expressions include "Baka!", and "Urusai!" ("Shut up!"). A tsundere who knows the other's point of pride will not hesitate to insult them on that account, and when this tactic is employed nothing the other person can do will be good enough to impress the tsundere. If they have Belligerent Sexual Tension, volleying Insults often occur. This kind of tsundere might be vulnerable to a "Shut Up" Kiss. If they ever treat the injuries of the other, they will berate the hurt one for acquiring them, or jeer at them for pained reactions — often while roughly binding their wounds.
  4. Tyrannical Rule: While the above three forms of hostile behavior can be the result of anything, from No Social Skills, to awkwardly expressed emotions, sometimes it's made clear that they are just a bossy type of person, who likes to dominate their partner, like a slave-owner. A common trait among Shana Clones.
  5. All Of The Above: The tsundere's reactions will heavily depend on the situation that they and the love interest are placed in.

...as do deredere strategies:

  1. The Un-giver: Giving Valentine's Chocolate to their love interest, usually with an excuse "I felt sorry for you," as well as other gifts that might have romantic undertones.
  2. The Helper: Helping the crush with their chores. Cooking for them is a favorite tactic — even if they won't admit to it.
  3. The Trainer: Beating the person in a session of Training from Hell or helping them out to beat an enemy in combat.
  4. The Defender: Protecting a love interest or friend from a stronger enemy, often claiming "I Was Just Passing Through!".
  5. The Nurse: Sitting by the love interest's bedside if they fall sick or have an accident. Double points if the tsundere falls asleep next to them. After Action Patchup also affords a chance to show their tender side by nursing their love interest, though it may be peppered with tsun taunts about acquiring the injuries in the first place.
  6. The Advisor: Listening to their non-romantic woes once in a while and helping them out with them. This is especially common in the case of schoolwork.

In addition, there appear to be three major specific "classes", which, while more common with harsh, may sometimes fit with sweet.

  • The "Wolf-Girl/Boy"-class tsundere who can't or won't be honest about their feelings, is quick to judge their love interest (or the main character in a harem comedy), poorly, and usually pelts them with violence at the slightest provocation, real or imagined. Bonus points if the tsundere calls the love interest an idiot for not understanding their feelings outside their earshot or too quietly for them to hear.
  • The Discipline-class Tsundere: Usually a fellow student assigned some role of authority, hall monitor, school president, etc. who is rather strict in enforcing the rules. The tsundere is quick to blame the love interest for breaches of etiquette and tries to punish him/her for it. This usually surprises the love interest in that they're getting singled out for attention over others. The possibility of a romantic interest seldom comes to mind as the reason for the tsundere's behavior -- at least until the crush gets wind of further evidence.
  • The Tragic Past-class Tsundere: This poor tsundere has a Dark and Troubled Past that makes understanding their feelings, let alone expressing them, highly problematic for everyone, including themselves. As such, approaching this character is rather delicate, and if they approach someone else, expect many misunderstandings good or bad. While violence towards the Love Interest is not required, it often occurs.

The deredere moments vary from one tsundere to another. With more tsuntsun types of tsundere, they tend to be more spontaneous, whereas more deredere types of tsundere usually plan out the deredere moments only for everything to go wrong.

A tsundere's attractiveness is two-fold: on the one hand, they are an independent, strong-willed character, determined to do everything well. On the other, they have major endearing traits such as awkwardness with relationships (particularly romantic relationships), or tomboyish tendencies in the case of the girls, which they perceive as "weakness." However, where another person would become upset with themselves about these "weaknesses", a tsundere just blushes and covers them up with aggressive attitude. Tsundere women are less likely to be very feminine, since their less-than-doting personality facet is their major appeal. For the more tsuntsun type, it's assumed that they only act unkindly to hide their good heart or deal with their romantic feelings. For the more deredere type, their hidden tsuntsun side shows that they're more than just the sweet woman/man.

Most tsundere characters deny their behavior, although a few glory in it. In particular, the more deredere types of tsundere often aspire to become a oujodere, perhaps following the example of an older sister/brother or their mother/father. When they fail in these attempts (usually directed at their Love Interest), expect them to either release their tsuntsun half on a convenient target (again, usually their Love Interest), or to show off their deredere half by breaking down and crying (often in their Love Interest's arms). The loss of their love interest is a common method for changing a tsundere into a oujodere. If their tsundere personality re-emerges, it's probably a sign that they've learned to love again.

Voice actresses who often portray tsundere roles include Rie Kugimiya, Ayana Taketatsu, Kate Higgins and Satsuki Yukino for the females. For the male part, it's normally actor Noriaki Sugiyama.

"This may look like it was written by me. N-Not that I especially made it for you o-or anything, you lazy oaf!"

Characters with this Personality

See Tsundere/Anime Characters to see characters from anime media
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Tsundere

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"I hate and I love. Perhaps you ask why I do this?
I do not know, but I feel it happen and I am torn apart."

The Japanese term tsundere refers to an outwardly violent character who "runs hot and cold", alternating between two distinct moods: tsuntsun (aloof or irritable) and deredere (lovestruck).

The term was originally used to describe characters who began with a harsh outgoing personality, but slowly revealeda soft and vulnerable interiorover time, which made this a plot trope as much as it is a character trope. Over the years the character archetype has become flanderized, and is now generically associated with a character who flips between the two emotional states at the slightest provocation, and usually at a specific person rather than a general sociability problem. The former is usually referred as Classic Tsundere and the latter as Modern Tsundere. A tsundere, especially a classic one, is usually a Tomboy with a Girly Streak.

The tsuntsun can range from the cold "silent treatment" to the hotheaded "kindergartener who pushes you into the sandbox." The reasons behind a Tsundere's behavior vary widely, but usually boil down to the conflict between their feelings of affection towards a love interest, and their reaction to having those feelings. Though in most examples the reason has something to do with a Madonna–Whore Complex or at least a fear of Slut-Shaming. Truth in Television for many teenage girls: as they both try too hard to be attractive and also try to look like they aren't trying. In an adult though, this type of behavior is generally seen as distastefully immature.

The Tsundere stock characterization is very popular with writers of Romantic Comedy because the conflicts between the two personality facets can be easily utilized to generate both drama and comedy. It also acts as a source of Wish Fulfillment: specifically, the idea that every independent, hardened and just plain jerkish love interest (male or female) has a squishy emotional center that will embrace you after you crack the outer shell. Can be entirely Played for Laughs by pairing the Flanderized version with The Stoic or the Cloud Cuckoo Lander. Either both parties can't admit their feelings for a bittersweet tale that might end with a Dying Declaration of Love or all of the Tsundere's shenanigans are completely unnecessary.

Tsundere can be divided into two main categories, depending on their default mood:

  • Harsh/Spicy (or Tsun): These Tsundere have tsuntsun as their default mood. It takes someone special to trigger their deredere side. The intensity of the tsuntsun can range from simple grumpy pessimism to "I must glare and fight my way through life". It's about which part of the tsundere personality is the public face and which the hidden. If the Tsundere is The Rival, she is more likely to be Harsh. Helping a rival out is usually accompanied by a line like "Don't get me wrong, I'm not doing this for you."

    Harsh types can overlap with a Jerk with a Heart of Gold, but usually not. The moods of a Tsundere tend to switch in reaction to the actions of select people or adverse scenarios; the deredere side usually only comes out when someone has acted in a way to trigger it. A Jerk with a Heart of Gold is jerkish in general regardless of whether the other person is mean or nice, and shows their Hidden Heart of Gold only when the situation warrants, regardless of how the other person had been acting. Male characters in particular should be considered for Jerk with a Heart of Gold status, as arguably because of Double Standards, men are generally that instead of tsundere, although the kuudere subtype is more equally split in gender. Oranyan is sometimes used to refer to a male tsundere character—incorrectly since it means the complete opposite.
  • Sweet (or Dere): These Tsundere have deredere as their default mood. They are sweet, kind and generous, but just happen to have a hidden violentside as well. Don't confuse the sweet tsundere with Bitch in Sheep's Clothing because in this case, they have a temper almost always triggered by someone or something else, usually a Love Interest. Either they have Belligerent Sexual Tension, are an Accidental Pervert, or just have no idea how to handle feelings of love and attraction. In some cases, an Armoured Closet Gay character may act like a Tsundere to mask their feelings for the object of their same-sex affection. May also overlap with Violently Protective Girlfriend if her Love Interest is threatened or in danger.

    Sweet types should also not be confused with a Yandere. If a Sweet Tsundere were really convinced that their Love Interest didn't want them, they would revert back to the deredere side and probably enter an I Want My Beloved to Be Happy phase, while Yanderes are Not Good with Rejection at all and have been known to get downrightmurderous under such circumstances.

See also the Analysis page for more detailed information on common "strategies" employed by Tsundere characters, and other, related topics. This site has an explanation on the appeal of the Tsundere character.

A common way of showing that a Tsundere has mellowed or has had her heart won over by the Love Interest is to have her shift from Harsh to Sweet. If her motivations are inquired, she will often engage in a Suspiciously Specific Denial, complete with a Luminescent Blush and total evasion of eye contact (cue the squeaks of Moe).

When paired with a Jerk with a Heart of Gold, together they produce Belligerent Sexual Tension. If done poorly, the result is an Unintentionally UnsympatheticJerk Sue. Compare with Well, Excuse Me, Princess!, Jerkass, Jerk with a Heart of Gold, and Bruiser with a Soft Center. Contrast with Sour Outside, Sad Inside, which shares the spiky exterior but has depression and self-doubt rather than kindness hiding underneath. When Flanderized tends to overlap with Mood-Swinger. Also see Don't You Dare Pity Me! and Anger Born of Worry; both of them likely actions with this character type. The more benevolent examples are very likely to be Good Is Not Nice (or anti-heroes). Aloof Ally may show the same hot-and-cold behavior but for differing reasons. Shana Clone is a specific subtrope with a particular set of characteristics. Because of their low tolerance for stupidity, they are always Enraged by Idiocy. These character types can fit both variants of Jerkass to One (for the first variant, they only act harsh with their love interest while is gentle with everyone else, and for the second variant, they act harsher with their love interest more than they are with others.) Tsunderes, especially the first type, are often The Unapologetic; if they warm up to their love interest, don't expect them to apologize for their hostile behavior towards them.

Please do not confuse this trope with a Mood-Swinger, who flips between all the emotional states (not just tsuntsun and deredere) and is more of an inherent mental problem encompassing more than just their romantic life. Also don't confuse with Playing Hard to Get, where a love interest deliberately chooses not to reciprocate her pursuer's interest until she's sure he's hooked.

There are a few male examples, but the tsundere is more likely to be female and interested in a male protagonist. This is likely due to the Unfortunate Implications of a male love interest constantly deriding and insulting a heroine because of his unspoken feelings for her. Male love interests with tsundere-like traits are more likely to have mutual Belligerent Sexual Tension with a girl equally as tsundere as he is, or act aloof and detached as more of a Kuudere type character. Can be a trait of a female Woobie, or other female character with an Hilariously Abusive Childhood. This way of using the trope is less likely to carry Unfortunate Implications, but still fails to acknowledge the real reasons why most young women behave this way.

Psychologically, tsundere-like behavior could be an example of "splitting", a maladaptive coping mechanism wherein a person alternately idealizes and undervalues others, including potential romantic partners.

This trope is Older Than Dirt, dating back to at least ancient Mesopotamia.

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Asian Animation

  • Wolnie from Pleasant Goat and Big Big Wolf is of the "harsh" type. She tends to be a jerk to her husband Wolffy and will even whack him with her Frying Pan of Doom whenever he winds up unable to capture the goats, but she genuinely loves and cares for him and shows this every once in a while whenever she's actually nice and romantic towards him for a change.

Waldorf: Kids these days. They can never seem to make up their mind, can they?
Statler: Like we're ones to talk! We're still here aren't we?
Both: Do-ho-ho-ho-hoh!

Alternative Title(s):Punchy Love, Oranyan, Hot And Cold, Bitter Sweet Heart, Affectionate Spitfire, Mood Swinging Sweetheart, Sweet And Sour Personality, Sugar And Fire Personality

Sours: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Tsundere

Tsundere

Affectionate path of character development

Look up tsundere in Wiktionary, the free dictionary.
A typical example of a tsundere character

Tsundere (ツンデレ, pronounced [tsɯ̥ndeɾe]) is a Japanese term for a character development process that depicts a character with a personality who is initially cold, stern, stoic, harsh, temperamental, hotheaded (and sometimes even hostile) before gradually showing a warmer, friendlier side over time.

The word is derived from the terms tsun tsun (ツンツン) ('to turn away in disgust or anger') and dere dere (デレデレ) ('to become affectionate').[1] Originally found in Japanese bishōjo games,[2] the word is now part of the otakumoe phenomenon,[3] reaching into other media such as maid cafés,[3]anime, manga, novels, and mass media. The term was made popular in the visual novelKimi ga Nozomu Eien.[1]

Terminology[edit]

Manga author Ken Akamatsu lists tsundere as one of the special cases in his definition of moe: "The person feeling it must be stronger: The object of 'moe' is weak and dependent (like a child) on the person, or is in a situation where she cannot oppose (like a maid)... (*Tsundere only: There will be times where the stronger and weaker role is reversed)."[4] The concept has received increasing attention in Japan, with a maid cafe named Nagomi in Akihabara started having tsundere events in 2006[5][note 1] and tsundere-themed products released (like Tomy Co.'s portable television set),[note 2] and the concept increasingly reflected in recent anime, from an extended discussion of the meaning of the concept and its origin on the Internet in Lucky Star's Lucky Channel segment classifying the characters according to tsundere-ness. Another accepted definition of tsundere is a girl or a guy who has a combative attitude toward others but is also kind on the inside. They usually play out as having an attitude toward the main character, either a male or a female, and often criticizing them in one way or another, until they eventually warm up to them or fall in love with them as the series progresses, though they usually find it very hard to admit it or outright deny it in some cases.

Comiket organizer Koichi Ichikawa has described Lum Invader of Urusei Yatsura as being both the source of moe and the first tsundere;[6] figurine sculptor Bome has also cited Lum as an inspiration for his designs.[7] Manga critic Jason Thompson named Madoka Ayukawa of the 1980s series Kimagure Orange Road as the root of the tsundere archetype.[8] Other anime and manga featuring tsundere include Love Hina, Neon Genesis Evangelion,[9] and Bakemonogatari,[10] among many others. Some voice actors have garnered a reputation for voicing tsundere characters such as Rie Kugimiya who voices Louise in The Familiar of Zero and Nagi in Hayate the Combat Butler.[11][12] In Excel Saga volume 15, author Rikdo Koshi defines tsundere as "hard on the outside, soft on the inside" and associates it with character Misaki Matsuya.[2]

Tsundere as a concept is not strictly limited to women, and is not strictly limited to manga or anime. The character Germany from the series Hetalia: Axis Powers is portrayed as being tsundere, and is paired with a "lovable loser", Italy Veneziano.[3]Tsundere role-play has become a common theme in maid cafés.[3]

See also[edit]

Notes[edit]

  1. ^"In Tokyo's Akihabara district there is reportedly a tsundere cafe, and the word tsunderera, better rendered in English as Tsunderella due to being highly evocative of Cinderella, was nominated for a prize in the 2006 fashionable word awards, indicating that 'tsundere' culture may become more prominent in the future." February 2, 2007, "Toymaker introduces portable TV with harsh audio guidance that gradually gets kinder" in the Mainichi Times.
  2. ^"Toy manufacturer Tomy Co. has come up with the world's first tsundere portable television set, which gives audio guidance with a harsh voice that gradually becomes kinder as the user gets used to the set... Tsundere is a word for a type of feminine personality that is initially uptight and cold, and then kind and loving. It is well known among Japan's otaku community, and ranks in popularity with the word moe, which signifies an enthusiasm or fetish for something, especially in connection with anime." February 2, 2007, Mainichi

References[edit]

  1. ^ abGalbraith, Patrick W. (2009). The Otaku Encyclopedia: An Insider's Guide to the Subculture of Cool Japan. Kodansha International. pp. 226–227. ISBN .
  2. ^ abKoshi, Rikdo (December 2006). Excel Saga, Volume 15. Viz Media. p. 2, translator's notes (Carl Gustav Horn). ISBN .
  3. ^ abcdGalbraith, Patrick W. (October 31, 2009). "Moe: Exploring Virtual Potential in Post-Millennial Japan". Electronic Journal of Contemporary Japanese Studies. Retrieved March 4, 2010.
  4. ^"Wednesday Notes... Akamatsu-sensei Talks "Moe"". Matthew's Anime Blog. Anime blogger. July 20, 2005. Archived from the original on March 2, 2010. Retrieved November 11, 2009.
  5. ^"【ファンキー通信】タメ口、暴言の接客もなんのその! ツンデレカフェ登場!?" (in Japanese). March 22, 2006. Retrieved November 4, 2016.
  6. ^Galbraith, Patrick W. (2009). The Otaku Encyclopedia: An Insider's Guide to the Subculture of Cool Japan. Kodansha International. p. 44. ISBN .
  7. ^Ruh, Brian (December 14, 2010). "Brain Diving: Otaku, Where Art Thou?". Anime News Network. Retrieved January 3, 2010.
  8. ^Thompson, Jason (September 11, 2014). "House of 1000 Manga – Kimagure Orange Road". Anime News Network. Archived from the original on 2014-09-12. Retrieved September 15, 2015.
  9. ^Eisenbeis, Richard (2013-08-20). "How to Identify Popular Japanese Character Types". Kotaku.com. Retrieved 2013-10-20.
  10. ^Isin, Nisio (November 1, 2006). "Hitagi Crab". Bakemonogatari (in Japanese). 1. Kodansha. ISBN .
  11. ^ [Seiyu Award: "Tsundere Queen" Rei Kugimiya Gets Starring Actress Award, Hiroshi Kamiya Also Awarded]. Mainichi Shimbun (in Japanese). March 7, 2009. Archived from the original on 2010-02-03. Retrieved November 11, 2009.
  12. ^ [Tsundere Card Game: 'Please Don't Understand My Feelings' "Queen" Rie Kugimiya as the Reader to be Sold Soon]. Mainichi Shimbun (in Japanese). December 10, 2007. Archived from the original on 2008-01-12. Retrieved November 11, 2009.

Further reading[edit]

Sours: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsundere

Tsundere angry

He always liked to command me. It's just that now we have moved to another level. And undressing was not necessary. It was nothing more than a joke.

She got into the car, then there was a meaningless dialogue, at some point I realized that my sports shoes were getting small for me, my penis was filled with blood and got up. Let's drive off, though the car is tinted, but we are in the center of the city and it's a white day on the street. Ohhhhh. for sure, I'm in a state of excitement and have already forgotten where we are and at what time we are standing.

Now discussing:

Not a lover of closed clothes, she preferred light and open clothes: short dresses, mini skirts, translucent blouses and light cut sundresses. She did not like sleeping in pajamas or a nightie and slept in particular naked, her parents were already used to this and had long ceased to. Scold her for it. But they did not know that Elena also did it so that she could masturbate easily at night and in the morning, without wasting time undressing.

Lena was not a virgin, she had already had sex a couple of times, but the girl lost her virginity in.



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